I agree with you .. :p

Fist of all I bet neither of u play 9 ball cuz if u did you'd know that 3 fouls is really a rule in the game.  I mean whats next u guys want fod to remove the contact of the ball to a rail for a legal shot?  Comon guys if u dont like it theres 2 other billiard games to play where thats not a rule........Wouldnt it be nice to come to forum and see a day of posts without childish complaining (doubt it).

Oh ya again ill say it, FOD is tryin to make this game more realistic.  How can it be more realistic if we start makin up our own rules?

maybeifonly  wut u saying is ok but also if u notice u will found that most of the legues aren't using 3 foul so i think i have about 1000 vote accept my opinion ;):p

It dosnt matter......Flyordie will not remove a true rule of the game.  True it sucks when people break to try to get 3 foul right off the bat, but it takes good skill to play 3 fouls in 9 ball during game not from break.  Its not like snooker where the fouls are easy, u do have to hit rail w/ a ball.  So i guess best advise to u is to stick to the league rooms and u shoodnt have a problem.:)

Then they should get the rules right, when you break in 9 ball, 3 balls( i think) have to hit the rail besides the q-ball, this is to prevent the easy break that people do.

You are right sharky but its 3 balls period including the Q ball.  Nice one I forgot about that.  What about the push rule thats nine ball right, where after break if you cant see your object ball u can push Q out and your opponent has the choice to take the shot or pass it to u again?

Yes the rule about 3balls hitting a cushion off the break should be brought it by FOD if they have the time :D

It would avoid the very annoying "3-foul win" off the break...which is legal...but very unsportsmanlike.

Ty.

Jamez

it still wuddnt make a difference...u can shoot the rack at an angle n spin up side and snooka the balls :|..then get the last 2 fouls :pits not dat hard ;)

Well, open a rule book, go to the index, look up "nine ball" go there. Look at the rules,find 3 foul and it should say 

IF YOUR OPPENENT GETS 3 FOUL IN A ROW, THEY LOSE THE MATCH.


 thanks Çσисзþт (not conept):D

hey...:| next time spell my name right u spelled it wrong in erry post :p-"|

ok then i have better idiea ;) i think some 1 talked about it ..... any way it is allowing pass the ball after break i mean if the the 1 u playing vs him breaked with snooker u can pass the snooker to him:D i agree with all who said we can enjoy 3 foul during the game 

BUT NOT OFF BREAK ;\

yes is a rule its called a push. It works either way, if u break and make 2 balls but u canot see the 1 cuz a ball is in ur way u can call push n then u hit the q ball out somewhere to see the 1 ball and your apponent has the opportunity to play the shot or pass it back. Same goes for if u make nothing on break and ur apponent is safed, he may push out n u have the oppertunity to take the shot he gives u or pass back. Its only off the break no other time is it used.  It would solve alot of problems with people getting mad at others for snookerin off break :)

Hate to post such a long post but heres the rules of 9 ball. I thot it be easier explained here, refer to rule 5.6 for push.

WORLD STANDARDIZED RULES: 9-BALL 
DISCLAIMER: This file contains property copyrighted by the Billiard Congress of America. Any modification or sale of the information herein is strictly prohibited by the laws governing that copyright. Please direct questions regarding interpretation of the following, or information on how to receive the current BCA Billiards - The Official Rules and Records Book to the Billiard Congress of America.  


 RULES    
  
General Rules of Pocket Billiards
8-Ball
9-Ball
14.1 Continuous
One Pocket
Wheelchair Competition
BCA Equipment Specifications
 

Except when clearly contradicted by these additional rules,the General Rules of Pocket Billiards apply.



5.1  OBJECT OF THE GAME
Nine-Ball is played with nine object balls numbered one through nine and a cue ball. On each shot, the first ball the cue ball contacts must be the lowest numbered ball on the table, but the balls need not be pocketed in order. If a player pockets any ball on a legal shot, he remains at the table for another shot, and continues until missing, committing a foul, or winning the game by pocketing the 9-ball. After a miss, the incoming player must shoot from the position left by the previous player, but after any foul the incoming player may start with the cue ball anywhere on the table. Players are not required to call any shot. A match ends when one of the players has won the required number of games. 

5.2    RACKING THE BALLS
The object balls are racked in a diamond shape, with the 1-ball at the top of the diamond and on the foot spot, the 9-ball in the center of the diamond, and the other balls in random order, racked as tightly as possible. The game begins with cue ball in hand behind the head string. 

5.3    ORDER OF BREAK
Winner of the lag has the option to break. In 9-Ball, the winner of each game breaks in the next, unless otherwise specified by the tournament organizer. The following are common options that may be designated by tournament officials in advance: 

(a)        Players alternate break.

(b)        Loser breaks.

(c)        Player trailing in game count breaks the next game. 

  

5.4    LEGAL BREAK SHOT
The rules governing the break shot are the same as for other shots except: 

 

1.                 The breaker must strike the1-ball first and either pocket a ball or drive at least four numbered balls to the rail.

2.                  If the cue ball is pocketed or driven off the table, or the requirements of the opening break are not met, it is a foul, and the incoming player has cue ball in hand anywhere on the table. 

3.                  If on the break shot, the breaker causes an object ball to jump off the table, it is a foul and the incoming player has cue ball in hand anywhere on the table. The object ball is not re-spotted (exception: if the object ball is the 9-ball, it is re-spotted).





5.5   CONTINUING PLAY
On the shot immediately following a legal break, the shooter may play a "push out." (See Rule 5.6). If the breaker pockets one or more balls on a legal break, he continues to shoot until he misses, fouls, or wins the game. If the player misses or fouls, the other player begins an inning and shoots until missing, committing a foul, or winning. The game ends when the 9-ball is pocketed on a legal shot, or the game is forfeited for a serious infraction of the rules.

5.6   PUSH OUT
The player who shoots the shot immediately after a legal break may play a push out in an attempt to move the cue ball into a better position for the option that follows. On a push out, the cue ball is not required to con-tact any object ball nor any rail, but all other foul rules still apply. The player must announce the intention of playing a push out before the shot, or the shot is considered to be a normal shot. Any ball pocketed on a push out does not count and remains pocketed except the 9-ball. Following a legal push out, the incoming player is permitted to shoot from that position or to pass the shot back to the player who pushed out. A push out is not considered to be a foul as long as no rule (except rules 5.8 and 5.9) is violated. An illegal push out is penalized according to the type of foul committed. After a player scratches on the break shot, the incoming player cannot play a push out. 

5.7    FOULS
When a player commits a foul, he must relinquish his run at the table and no balls pocketed on the foul shot are re-spotted (exception: if a pocketed ball is the 9-ball, it is re-spotted). The incoming player is awarded ball in hand; prior to his first shot he may place the cue ball anywhere on the table. If a player commits several fouls on one shot, they are counted as only one foul. 

5.8    BAD HIT
If the first object ball contacted by the cue ball is not the lowest numbered ball on the table, the shot is foul. 

5.9    NO RAIL
If no object ball is pocketed, failure to drive the cue ball or any numbered ball to a rail after the cue ball contacts the object ball on is a foul. 

5.10   IN HAND
When the cue ball is in hand, the player may place the cue ball anywhere on the bed of the table, except in contact with an object ball. The player may continue to adjust the position of the cue ball until shooting. 

5.11   OBJECT BALLS JUMPED OFF THE TABLE
An un-pocketed ball is considered to be driven off the table if it comes to rest other than on the bed of the table. It is a foul to drive an object ball off the table. The jumped object ball(s) is not re-spotted (exception: if the object ball is the 9-ball, it is re-spotted) and play continues. 

5.12   JUMP AND MASSÉ SHOT FOUL
If a match is not refereed, it will be considered a cue ball foul if during an attempt to jump, curve or massé the cue ball over or around an impeding numbered ball, the impeding ball moves (regardless of whether it was moved by a hand, cue stick follow-through or bridge). 

5.13   THREE CONSECUTIVE FOULS
If a player fouls three consecutive times on three successive shots without making an intervening legal shot, the game is lost. The three fouls must occur in one game. The warning must be given between the second and third fouls. A player’s inning begins when it is legal to take a shot and ends at the end of a shot on which he misses, fouls or wins, or when he fouls between shots. 

5.14      END OF GAME
On the opening break, the game is considered to have commenced once the cue ball has been struck by the cue tip. The 1-ball must be legally contacted on the break shot. The game ends at the end of a legal shot which pockets the 9-ball, or when a player forfeits the game as the result of a foul
 

FlyOrDie has done a good job of occasionally making changes to make the online version of the game match the rules of "real" billiards. 

There are two changes that would be great... one is the option to "push out" the shot following the break in 9 ball. This option is usually employed when one is snookered on the break.

The second thing (this one applies to 8 ball as well) is to change what constitutes a legal break and a legal shot... I guess that's second and third things. Anyway, a legal shot must drive the cue ball or a numbered ball to a rail AFTER contacting the object ball. This eliminates the little ticky tacky shots off the rail to hide behind a ball for a snooker. Also, to be considered a legal break, at least 4 balls must be driven to a rail...  this eliminates the little touch break that some people like to do to force the opponent to break the rack appart.

Of course the last thing (which I have mentioned for on other posts)... two words.... CALL SHOT. Now THAT would seperate the real players from the posers. :-)

:) i vote with u Mλgιcιλη if FlyOrDie put the rule u talking about in FlyOrDie rules that would realy be great :) that would solve the proplem of snooker break :):) tyvm m8 ;):D

plz vote OP :)

i think your all whining babies. bunt shots are very skillfull and to master those properly, so that the player is totally snookered, is brilliant. flyordie are doing what they can to make this as realistic as possible...... 

BUT

 i am getting the feeling that people will never be happy with the game. if you want propper rules, go play real pool. 

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