I noticed that im not in list,and i have reasons,let tell you like this.. I have sign,i do use program,and thats the reason why im not in list,cuz i have sign... One day i entered C4 and i didnt had sign,very weird then i saw my name on list,it passed maybe few hours then i had sign again,and i checked again top list,my name is not there...:( So my question to you is: Why my name is not there... Does Subbed programs Cannot be in top list 50 ? I noticed this and really irritates,cuz im Sub...;) This is my opinion why i dont have sign,i want another opinions what u think ?
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Dear Reiki :D. If you bank and if you prog, how can you be considerated a good player, if you don't know well this game? How can you be considerated one of the best players if you don't the knowledge for that? :D Maybe, in a proggers top list you can be in top10 or top50 of the best cheaters. :P Hey ppl. Post here the best cheaters of the 4 in a row. My top3 is: 1º Parasita I 2º þส२ส§ï†ส 3º Parasita IV
The proggers don't have place in the tops lists because they don't play the game. So they are them progs playing for them. If you don't play by yourself how can you considerate yourself good? I don't undersant it :p There proggers with the sign and there proggers who hide them signs. The sign is not important, because the fod's system isn't trustable. You only need to admit you are progger and that's all.
Not fair to prog users? How is it something should be fair to cheaters i'm confused....cheaters are not fair so don't deserve fair treatment :S
Bonsoir, Tricher c'est interdit, sauf que flyordie ne peut pas les interdire vu qu'il n'est pas sûre à 100% qu'une personne programme ( c'est comme voler c'est interdit, et ce n'est pas pour ça que tout les voleurs sont en prison ) Et tu ne peux pas mettre un programme dans le top liste. d'une car les programmes sont plus nul que les bons joueurs ( en bleu, ils valent rien ... ) et sinon tout les proggers seront à égalité ( vu que vos programme jouent tous pareil ) et le top liste c'est un peu comme un podium. As-tu déjà vu un tricheur sur un podium? ^^ ( à part un podium de tricheurs :s ) C'est injuste les gens qui programme par rapport au gens qui ont du mal à gagner honnêtement ... Et je ne citerais pas de noms de tricheurs, ils se rabaissent déjà assez eux même ... Bonne chance à tous hello but cheating is forbidden, except that FlyOrDie can not ban them as it is not 100% sure that someone Program (It's like stealing is forbidden, and that's not why all the thieves are in prison) And you can not put a program in the top list. because of the programs are no longer that good players (in blue, they are worth anything ...) and if all proggers be equal (since you all play the same program) and the top is a little list as a podium. Have you ever seen a cheater on a podium? ^ ^ (Except for a podium cheats: s) It's unfair people who program in relation to people who are struggling to earn an honest ... And I would not cite the names of cheaters, they demean themselves enough ... Good luck at all
Actually, you admited yourself as a progger! That's good!! Reiki, if you don't play and if your prog plays for you, that means you cannot be considerated a good player. But, you have your space in a cheater's list :p Another thing. There're many players who know more starts than the progs. About the knowledge, those players knows more about the c4 then these popular progs. Even these popular progs cannot compair with the knowlegde of c4 best players :p.
Dear Parasita,Programming isnt cheating on FOD.You still claiming that i cheat.And yes i "did" progged...thats true :D but now i dont,but yet again you still think your way..
For all those who doesnt know whats cheating please read
"Cheating
Any form of unsportsmanlike behaviour will not be tolerated, FlyOrDie reserves the right to reset points to zero and/or ban your nickname for this offence.
It includes:
2.1 artificially adjusting your rating (resetting, banking, ...)
2.2 operation jumping
2.3 encouraging your opponent to leave the match
2.4 intentionally losing in favour of your opponent
2.5 accepting your opponent's behaviour who is intentionally losing "
Parasita my dear this is cheating...Using a computer program with board games:
Using a computer to decide your moves in a board game (specifically chess, checkers, reversi, gomoku, nine men's morris, go, four in a row, pente and backgammon) on FlyOrDie is allowed. FlyOrDie members have the right to know if they are playing against a computer. Therefore FlyOrDie uses a system to detect suspected program use, which will be indicated on the concerned players' info screen with a small icon. And Then: Conduct: The following are not tolerated:
3.16 Using, developing, promoting, or communicating the existence of a program that grants the user unnatural or unintended benefits in game or that alters performance of the game. Notice that in rule 3.16 it states USING. Am I the only one finding these 2 rules contrary to one another?
The programs aren't allowed and there are not any contradition. The only contradition is your post dude. At the rules I cannot find this "Using a computer to decide your moves in a board game (specifically chess, checkers, reversi, gomoku, nine men's morris, go, four in a row, pente and backgammon) on FlyOrDie is allowed. FlyOrDie members have the right to know if they are playing against a computer. Therefore FlyOrDie uses a system to detect suspected program use, which will be indicated on the concerned players' info screen with a small icon." Please check out well the rules. They are clear:
http://www.flyordie.com/games/help/moderation.html
Using a computer program with board games Using a computer to decide your moves in a board game (specifically chess, checkers, reversi, gomoku, nine men's morris, go, four in a row, pente and backgammon) on FlyOrDie is allowed. FlyOrDie members have the right to know if they are playing against a computer. Therefore FlyOrDie uses a system to detect suspected program use, which will be indicated on the concerned players' info screen with a small icon. I think the rules are clear.
I did not notice that part in the rules :p. Then I wasn't clear. :p So there a contradiction in the rules. Now I'm confused. Is it allowed or not using the programs?
bonjour, j'ai vu beaucoup de personne qui programme dirent que les programmes sont autorisé. C'est marquer clairement dans les règles ( 3.16 ) Les personnes qui programme ne savent pas lire ? ou ils lisent sans comprendre ce qui lisent ? hihi C'est juste qu'il a aucun logiciel qui détecte le programme en lui même ... Bon jeu à tous TRADUCTION : hello, I have seen many people said that programs that programs are allowed. It is clearly marked in the rules (3.16) People who can not read the program? or they read without understanding what is read? hihi It's just that no software that detects the program itself ... Good luck at all
The rules clearly state the following:
Using a computer to decide your moves in a board game (specifically chess, checkers, reversi, gomoku, nine men's morris, go, four in a row, pente and backgammon) on FlyOrDie
IS
allowed. FlyOrDie members have the right to know if they are playing against a computer. Therefore FlyOrDie uses a system to detect suspected program use, which will be indicated on the concerned players' info screen with a small icon.
ThUnDeR FlyOrDie Moderator
Using a computer program with board games
Using a computer to decide your moves in a board game (specifically chess, checkers, reversi, gomoku, nine men's morris, go, four in a row, pente and backgammon) on FlyOrDie is allowed. FlyOrDie members have the right to know if they are playing against a computer. Therefore FlyOrDie uses a system to detect suspected program use, which will be indicated on the concerned players' info screen with a small icon.
3. Conduct
No player is allowed
to direct personal attacks and/or vulgarity toward other players. You should be able to state your opinion without the use of inappropriate wording.
The following are not tolerated:
3.1 Criticizing others rather than their views and actions
3.2 Offending a nick with vulgar language
3.3 Inciting hatred on the basis of race, nationality, gender, sexuality, religion or other personal characteristic.
3.4 Concealed or unconcealed advertisement
3.5 Disclosing another individual's personal circumstances without their consent.
3.6 Being abusive by profanity or harassing.
3.7 Calling to or applying to unlawful action.
3.8 Referring to body parts or sexuality.
3.9 Obstructing the moderators in doing their job.
3.10 Behaviour that interferes other's reasonable interests.
3.11 Using other's account
3.12 Lending your nickname to other players (please also see 5.5)
3.13 Attempting to mislead users by indicating that you represent FlyOrDie.com.
3.14 Making false reports to FlyOrDie staff members or moderators.
3.15 Harassing, threatening, embarrassing, or doing anything else to another member or guest that is unwanted.
3.16 Using, developing, promoting, or communicating the existence of a program that grants the user unnatural or unintended benefits in game or that alters performance of the game.
3.17 Attempt to solicit account information from other players.The first one is obviously an exception of the second one. ThUnDeR FlyOrDie Moderator
Bonjour, les programmes ne sont pas autorisé mais toléré car flyordie ne dispose d'aucun moyen efficace à 100% pour lutter contre ce genre de tricherie ( le programme te donne les réponses ) et dans n'importe quel jeux ou domaines, si tu donnes les réponses c'est de la tricherie ... Et si ils ne font rien de mal ( comme vous le prétendez ) pourquoi les détecter et les marquer ( avec un point d'exclamation ) ? Si tu autorises les programmes, tu autorises le point banque alors. Car ce qui point banque ou utilisent un programme ont le même objectif, avoir le plus de point et qu'ils ne savent pas jouer... Lisez la règle 3.16 en dessous : 3.16 UTILISANT, développant, promouvant, ou communiquant l'existence d'un PROGRAMME qui accorde des BENEFICES ARTIFICIELS ou fortuits à l'utilisateur dans le jeu ou cela CHANGE L'EXECUTION DU JEU ( si tu ne comprends pas cette phrase ... ) benefices artificiels = point change l'éxécution du jeu = le " joueurs" gagne avec le programme, alors que sans programme il perdrait ( car 99% des proggers ne savent pas du tout jouer ) ça change bien l'éxécution du jeu ! si le programme serait autorisé , le site n'aurait pas le droit de leurs mettre un point d'exclamation ;) car ils seront dans leur droit ! Or ce n'est pas le cas et c'est marquer dans le réglement ... C'est comme boire de l'alcool c'est autorisé, mais on vous collerez une étiquette marquer alcoolique... Si c'est autorisé ils sont libre choix de faire ce qu'ils veulent et que cela reste secret ! Flyordie devrait refaire les régles avec des phrases plus simple pour ce qui ne comprennent pas lool Et pour le message de thunder, "FlyOrDie utilise un système pour détecter l'utilisation du programme suspectée". Flyordie utilise un système pour détecter le changement de page et pas le programme en lui même ... Pleins de joueurs utilisent un programme et ils n'ont pas de signe et certaines personne n'en utilisent pas et ils ont le signe... (accuser un innocent de tricher, il n'y a rien de pire...) Bonne chance à tous ! TRADUCTION : Hello, programs are not allowed but tolerated because FlyOrDie has no means 100% effective in the fight against this kind of cheating (the program gives you the answers) and in any games or areas, if you give the answers is cheating ... And if they do nothing wrong (as you claim) why detect them and mark them (with an exclamation point)? If you allow the program, you authorize the bank's point then. For what point bank or use a program have the same goal, to have the most points and they can not play ... Read Rule 3.16 below: 3.16 USE, develop, promote, or communicate the existence of a PROGRAM that provides ARTIFICIAL PROFITS or incidental to the user in the game or it CHANGES THE EXECUTION OF THE GAME(if you do not understand this sentence ... artificial profits = points changes the execution of the game = the "players" win with the program, while he would lose without a program (because 99% of proggers do not know of any play) though it changes the execution of the game! if the program would be allowed, the site would not be entitled to their exclamation point;) because they are within their rights! This is not the case and mark it in the settlement ... It's like drinking alcohol is allowed, but you stick a label mark alcoholic ... If allowed they are free to choose what they want and to keep it that secret! FlyOrDie should remake the rules with simple phrases for this who do not understand lool And the message of thunder, "FlyOrDie uses a system to detect the suspected use of the program." FlyOrDie uses a system to detect the change in page and not the program itself ... Lots of players use a program and they did not sign and some people do not use and have the sign ... (an innocent accused of cheating, there's nothing worse ...) Good luck at all
programs are aloud if your playing the game for fun it shouldn't matter either way its just fun playing the game :D whether its a program or a human its all fun C:
Bonsoir, non D-Lion ce n'est pas amusant de jouer contre un programme, car tu as très peu de possibilité de le gagné, et surtout car c'est très ennuyant de jouer contre un programme. Il joue toujours pareil ! Et c'est déloyale envers les joueurs qui progresse sans aide d'un programme ! C'est le seul site qui n'essaie pas de lutter contre les programmes ... Bonne chance à tous ! TRADUCTION : Good evening, no D-Lion is not fun to play against a program because you have very little opportunity to win, especially because it's very annoying to play against a program. He always plays the same! And it is unfair to players who progresses without using a program! This is the only site that does not try to fight against the program ... good luck at all
saying that its no fun to play against a program makes no sense if somebody wasn't using a program and just happen to go in those spots then its fun? but if somebody is using a program and goes same spots its no fun? idk.. i just like playing the game win or lose c:
It's not fun because you are not playing. You are merely spector in the game. Your only action is copy the prog and run the game!
It's not fun, because you are just a spector. Your fun is just watching the others players losing. You proggers only want to laugh about the others persons specially when you win. There is nothing much else. In my case, my fun is beating or breaking the others players or then breaking the progs. So you don't fun with game. You only fun with score of the game. You don't taste the game, but you only taste your prog's performance :p. You don't win or lose the games. You only watch your prog losing or win or tie:p. So you are proud of your prog's habilities and not about your own habilities! Is it funny dude? This doesn't make sense:p. Questions: Why does people choose to play with prog? You are just a spector, then you could support anyone good; Why do the proggers keep saying they are fair and they don't prog. I think they feel bad as progger! They feel bad, because they feel they cannot be good players; Why do the proggers feel they are good players if they don't play? As Petit say, the proggers repeat many times the same moves. After 6 games, I get bored, because it's all th time the same.
Programming is FUN!(only for certain people) WHY! Its because of new players,newcomers they want to be good,they want to be best within a few days... I think this is the reason that will answer any question about programming.. PPL even i Real world act like this,its normal and its logical ! face the facts...:) After this they will attach wit FOD,after that they will get sub,after this idk they will get bored...:p My opinion...its real..
Programming is FUN!(only for certain people) WHY! Its because of new players,newcomers they want to be good,they want to be best within a few days... I think this is the reason that will answer any question about programming..
That answer is wrong. Using a program doesn't make you good nor does it help you improve. You're just copying and copying doesn't reflect your skill.
Bonjour, personnellement le programme est nul ... quand tu joues dans les classiques il gagne vrai ! mais quand tu joues dans des styles moins connu, il vaut plus rien... j'ai fait l'expérience avec un progger. Il était lui même très surpris que son SUPER programme puis perdre en rouge ( en plus assez facilement ) Et en bleu il vaut rien ... Et le programme ne peut pas s'adapter à son adversaire ... Comme un bon joueur le fait. Par exemple il y a des joueurs qui sont breakable en 436. Or le programme ne peut pas deviné que cet adversaire à ce point faible ... Et comme je l'ai dis et parasita a confirmé, les programmes jouent toujours pareil ... Et les proggers jouent avec des programmes car ils ont honte de leur niveau et qu'ils sont fainéant ( ils ne sont même pas capable d'apprendre par eux même ) . Mais je leur tire mon chapeau, car recopier bêtement un programme des heures et des heures, jours après jours, mois après mois, et même années après années ... Il faut vraiment s'ennuyer et être patient ... Et les proggers aiment se sentir puissant et rabaisser leurs adversaires quand ils gagnent ... ( plutôt drôle quand on voit leur vrais niveau ... ) Bonne chance à tous ! TRADUCTION : Hello, personally the program is no ... when you play in the classics he wins true! but when you play in lesser-known styles, it's nothing ... I experienced a Progger. He was himself surprised that the SUPER program and then losing in red (more easily) And it is not blue ... And the program can not adapt to his opponent ... As a good player does. For example there are players that are breakable in 436. Now the program can not guess that opponent so low ... And as I say and parasite has been confirmed, the programs are always the same ... Proggers and play with the programs because they are ashamed of their level and they are lazy (they are not even able to learn by themselves). But I take my hat off as a silly copy of the program hours and hours, day after day, month after month, even year after year ... You really bored and be patient ... Proggers and like to feel powerful and belittle their opponents when they win ... (Rather funny when we see their true level ...) Good luck to all!
one last thing. its connect four not chess, the games takes 30 minutes of reading to understand and know how to beat somebody every time you go first. program or not who cares...